Feminism

[ZorCrow]

Not true... I've seen countless women beat the crap out of men before. It's a proven fact that women have a much higher pain threshold then men. And through diet and extercise and regular weight training any women can overpower a man. Women are smaller, faster, more agile. Any women can outmenuver a man just by using speed and leverage. I've seen a 5'3" 108 lbs. women bring down a 6'5" 290 lbs. man with just a few simple moves. Granted she studied martial arts. Men are slower, bigger, and have more weight to carry around and deal with. Well the ideal man.

You've got to be kidding me . .I'm stronger than any woman on this website.
and men have held out under great torture . . .

No scientist on earth will support what you are saying . .

get real . . . don't make up facts when you can't debate.

 

[ZorCrow]

"Men are slower, bigger, and have more weight to carry around and deal with. Well the ideal man."


In this statement, you are making the same generalizations that you are attacking. The idea is that men are generally stronger (pure strength) but women are generally more limber and agile. That generalizatio is mostly correct. you will always find smaller bringing down bigger once martial arts come into play, but that is no indicator is pure physical strength. As for pain threshold, I am not convinced on that. The main point brought up is childbirth but that is a process for which women are uniquely designed. That does not necessarily translate into the rest of the real world.

Finally someone who understands science.

 

[Karma]

um...as a matter of fact, you ARENT "stronger" than every woman on this website...do you even KNOWN the background of every woman on this site? no. I know at least THREE women on here who could put you on your back with EASE based on the skills and abilities they have.

and further more WOMEN DO have a higher threshold of pain...its both psychological and physical. the fact that we are DESIGNED for child birth (which is one of the most PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY painfull experiences a human being can go through) lends itself to that.

Women are more resilient then men when it comes to physical illness as well.

and how many other MEN on this board have provided examples of women who are SMALLER then men TAKING DOWN men MUCH BIGGER than them? every man on the planet is NOT automatically stronger than every woman simply because they are a man.

a fat, over weight, lazy man who does nothing but eat unhealthy foods and is hardly active is NOT going to be able to out do a woman who watches her diet, exercises regularly and has a better, healthier physique.

 

[Rampage]

"a fat, over weight, lazy man who does nothing but eat unhealthy foods and is hardly active is NOT going to be able to out do a woman who watches her diet, exercises regularly and has a better, healthier physique."


Completely true. But a man who diets, exercises regularly and has a healthy physique will be able to lay on a bench and bench press more ON AVERAGE. That has nothing to do with men being better, that is a physiological fact, just as it is NOT a phsysiological fact that women have higher regular pain thresholds, Childbirth is a process for which women get 40 weeks to prepare. There are countless examples of men who have extremely high thresholds for pain. A far as the idea of a woman putting a man down, that is not strength, that is know how, which EITHER gender can get through practice. I am well aware (as a man whose aunt is a black belt) of the capabilities of women. I think that far too much is made of the pure physical strength issue here while at the same time many unsubstantiated claims are being made for the superiority (not equality) of women. So I think we are back to DDDs question: Are feminists looking for equality and empowerment OR the promotion of female superiority and the emasculation of men?

 

[Karma]

again AS a feminist...I have never set out to promote "female superiority" to men or the emasculation of men. HOWEVER, I have a probleml when MEN are so quick to tell ME what is "wrong" with feminism. Knowing the history of how women were treated in this country and around the world in decades and centuries past...let alone how they are treated NOW in some parts of the world (Middle East anyone?) do we REALLY need MEN telling us to "cool down" with the feminist platform? how about ACKNOWLEDGING US AS EQUALS instead of telling us what we should or shouldnt be doing or how good/bad feminism is. It has served a tremendous purpose throughout its 40+ years to help us PROOVE that we ARE equal, that WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT and be JUST AS GOOD as a MAN if not BETTER in some instances.

people are suggesting that "feminism" is responsible for the destruction of families, that feminists=lesbians, and all sorts of narrow minded crap that is TYPICAL of men who have a problem with WOMEN asserting themselves and demanding to be taken seriously.. in light of that...why would you expect anything LESS than a "knee/jerk" reaction from a feminist or any woman for that matter?

MEN are in this thread telling WOMEN what they should/shouldnt be doing in regards to the whole feminist platform..and the femnist platform BASICALLY states that WE DONT NEED MEN TELLING US WHAT TO DO.

 

[Sasha]

You've got to be kidding me . .I'm stronger than any woman on this website.
and men have held out under great torture . . .

No scientist on earth will support what you are saying . .

get real . . . don't make up facts when you can't debate.

I'm not making up facts... why do think there female bodybuilders, female wrestlers, and female martial artists? They make they're living out of being physically strong. It's common sense. I've seen it done. I can find clips, articles, and pictures to back up my claims. (As Spell did for me) I have litterly seen women take down men. Sheer force sometimes doesn't get the job done.

And another thing... women mature alot earlier then guys, physically and mentally. I got my first period at 10, while most of the boys my age couldn't help but laugh when someone said weinie. I still know guys who can't keep a straight face and some of them are grown men. Women are great managers and they're detail oriented. They able to stay on subject and keep a mature outlook. Why do think PR Agencies favor women above men? Women, generally, have better memorization and planning skills.

Women have constantly been the underdog of society and we have to work twice as hard to get the respect. Just because we're smaller, physically weaker, and have a uterus doesn't give men power over us. We have a voice, wants, desires, and dreams. They won't be ignored just because you think women belong in the kitchen. I can name several women who have benefitted thanks to feminism.... Condelliza Rice, Sandra Day O' Conner, Madonna, Elenor Roosevelt, Oprah, Halle Berry, Rosa Parks, Coretta Scott King, Maya Angelou, Cher, Marie Currie, Amelia Earhart, ect. Without feminism and the fight for equality between sexes we wouldn't have the pleasure of reading their books, watching their movies, rise to their potential, and applaud their success. I have great respect for these women and all women who have set out to be who and what THEY wanted.

 

[Karma]

I'm aquainted with a cognitive therapist at the Michigan Institute of Neurological Disorders. (and NO i was never a patient there before someone makes a wise crack) I'm going to check with HER tomorrow about "pain tolerance" and hopefully get CONFIRMATION on the assertion that women have a higher level.

this wouldnt even MATTER to me if it werent for the fact that SOME individuals in this thread seem to want to make it a point to categorize all the ways MEN are supposedly BETTER than women.