How bad is it going to get?

[Karma]

Bank robberies, personal assaults/robberies, identity theft, and insurance fraud are on the rise NATION WIDE in america as the jobless rate soars and more and more people lose their jobs to outsourcing while others who THOUGHT they were approaching retirement with security are seeing their benefits packages yanked away from them after 30 or more years of service.

Desperation is really starting to grip more and more in the "middle class" and lower in this country.

TWO of my co workers were robbed on their way TO WORK in BROAD DAYLIGHT and BOTH of them said that their assailants told them "i dont want to have to do this...but i have a wife and kids to feed". NOT that im EXCUSING the robber...but its just one instance of many that ive heard about in my metro area and on the news in other cities across the nation.

more and more people are finding themselves in the "poor bracket" than we ever thought possible...and so my question is..HOW BAD IS IT GOING TO GET? I live in a state that has one of the WORST state economies right now because we are home to the auto industry capitol. many many people who were once riding high on jobs in the auto industry are now suddenly bounced out because companies dont want to pay american workers. they'd rather go the "cheap labor" route so they dont have to pay benefits after retirement or provide health care coverage.

I'm just wondering if anyone ELSE has noticed that things are not getting BETTER...only that they arent being talked about as much because of other more pressing matters like Hurricane Katrina?

 

[ZorCrow]

My wife and I have been spiritually shown by GOD, that if Detroit goes into receivership, that the financial situation behind the city, that the city's political leaders are not reporting, is so bad, once it's uncovered inr receivership the city will be in receivership for a LONG, LONG TIME.

It also won't be good for Detroit either. This actually was confirmed earlier by folks who lived in Flint during receivership and said things actually got worse.

Michigan has some real issues with the economy, Michigan under BUSH has lost so many jobs, and when folks don't have jobs for some reason the crime rate increases, too many eligible women or strippers/hookers,
too many men are thugging, and hustling illegally to make money.

I was getting my hair cut at Berkley's in the Pennobscobt building in Detroit. The gentleman who was cutting my hair, told me about how the lease keeps going up and folks keep moving out, they are barely hanging out and may not be their much longer the higher leases are pushing more and more businesses outside of Detroit.

Tennats leave, so the ones who stay gotta pay more.

This city, this state needs jobs, it needs manufacturing jobs,
it needs jobs in the communites from Detroit to Down River out to the west and upper thumb. This state won't turn around until Jobs, good paying jobs come.

I am glad your coworkers are all right, and I am glad you are all right as well.

To answer your question Spellbinder it's bad, but it could get worse,
and if it does look for many people to move out of this state . .
I've only been here 6 years and it has slid every year, I still do believe thi area with GOD, prayer, fasting, jobs, honest politicans, people who care and hard work can turn around.

The glory days can return, but will they? It's up to us . .

 

[Mat]

It doesn't seem "bad" where I'm living right now in the sense things are really going to hell, but it feels moreso like the city of Fargo is in a cultural stasis. Considering it was one of the fastest growing cities before (because low cost of living and maybe the North Dakotan work ethic) this is definitely not a good thing.

Sometimes I feel like the United States is in a way like ancient Rome. We've been the top dog for awhile now but we meddle in foreign affairs in questionable ways, and if you look at our culture one could argue we're at the height of american decadence. The greatest empires collapse from within. Is it ludicrous to suggest that someday the United States is just going to implode on itself?

Hopefully I won't be alive to see it.

 

[Karma]

It doesn't seem "bad" where I'm living right now in the sense things are really going to hell, but it feels moreso like the city of Fargo is in a cultural stasis. Considering it was one of the fastest growing cities before (because low cost of living and maybe the North Dakotan work ethic) this is definitely not a good thing.

Sometimes I feel like the United States is in a way like ancient Rome. We've been the top dog for awhile now but we meddle in foreign affairs in questionable ways, and if you look at our culture one could argue we're at the height of american decadence. The greatest empires collapse from within. Is it ludicrous to suggest that someday the United States is just going to implode on itself?

Hopefully I won't be alive to see it.

you are certainly not the FIRST person to make that grim comparison. historians on the IVY LEAGUE LEVEL have been saying this for a couple years now...and if nothing else..history HAS shown that no "empire" lasts forever. Rome is now merely Italy and hardly a world power. Germany is NOTHING like it was during its regime in the 30's and 40s when it was the focal point of the axis of evil. Japan was once a formidable "empire' centruies ago...and while it may not be as big a threat now military wise..they certainly are an economic competitor/threat.

and when Rome fell..it fell HARD...decimated by many outsided forces and pulled apart.

 

[mrfolson]

Well, going by the Bible, this world is not going to get better, its going to become worse, and, if you read your bibles you will know what to look for.

 

[Osiris]

Those of us that believe in the scriptures know that its a sign of the times. I mean Im only 25, but its like in the last several years since 9/11 the world in general is getting progressively worse as compared to yester year.

Our history is so similar to that of ancient Rome and Babylon that its almost insane to not analyze the Prophetic writings of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and at the bear minimum at least bear witness, that there must be some truth about what was written in scripture centuries ago.

Unless its just a big coincidence and we are all crazy.