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Lauren Collins

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I'm guessing this is allowed since it's the controversial topic forum... If it's not, sorry. :)

Anyways... I was just wondering what everyone's views on religion are...What religion everyone is...etc. Are you into Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Atheism, or something totally different?

I'm curious to know everyone's beliefs.

As for me, I'm Christian... Haven't been that long, though, but I'm definitely glad I gave up my life to God. :)

--I don't want to cause a ton of debate in here. It's not a bad thing, but this is mainly just a thread for telling what you believe and why. :) I'm sure there will be plenty to argue in soon. :)--
 
It wont be a problem as long as people dont start bitching at one another about it ;) Hehe.

As for me...my parents are both catholic, I gave up on that path fast LOL. Was totally not for me, I don't like restrictive man-dominated religions. Equality is more my cup of tea, I'm currently an eclectic Pagan.
 
I'm a Catholic, by force. I don't consider myself to be a Catholic - I don't believe that god exists, so how can I be a Catholic? But my family follow the religion strongly, almost obsessively, and as the dutiful daughter I'm expected to follow. For 1almost 17 years it was the bane of my existence.

Six months before turning 18, finally, they allowed me to stop going to church.
 
Wiccan here.

and NO im not some "goth chic" contrary to the popular stereotypical ideas about witches..not all of us skulk about in black robes with pale make up, eating children and wishing for social lives.


personally i dont consider my celebration of wicca to be "religion" RELIGION is the shit that george w. bush and these "right winger christians" who helped him win the election are all about. a path of spirituality (be it catholicism, islam, wicca, christianity) is on as good as the person who chooses that path.

"Religion" is what happens when you taint spirituality with "rules", "legalism", "heirarchy", "hypocrasy" and when you use "God" (for example) as a platform to purvey hatred of OTHER forms of spritiuality or differences such as sexual orientation etc.
 
I am a Bible Believing, Born Again Christian. I am also a licensed and ordained minister Non denominational. I do Evangelical work. I have had one other "faith" in my life. I do hate how some have hijacked my beautiful faith for their own evil purposes, this has been done since 300 AD, but those people who hate, slavery,rape, murder, steal, lie, send to war, and do all sorts in evil are as much Christians as I am a billionaire (I am no billionaire and they are not Christians).

So much evil has been done in the name of religion and politics, that's why I don't jump on Islam. I know what it is like being a Christian and people blaming you for everything, I know that those idiots who crashed planes into buildings and blow up innocent people are monsters pure and simple.

Also, you know what I find weird, SOME people who are religious blame those who aren't religious for problems, and those who are athiests and agnostics blame religion for their problems.

Ahh Humanity! The corrupted hearts of men!!!
 
ZorCrow said:
So much evil has been done in the name of religion and politics, that's why I don't jump on Islam. I know what it is like being a Christian and people blaming you for everything, I know that those idiots who crashed planes into buildings and blow up innocent people are monsters pure and simple.
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and there you have it!:)

ZorCrow said:
Also, you know what I find weird, SOME people who are religious blame those who aren't religious for problems, and those who are athiests and agnostics blame religion for their problems.
Ahh Humanity! The corrupted hearts of men!!!
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i dont quite agree that ALL athiests and agnostics blame "religion"...some of us know (just as you said in your last statement) its really about the "corrupt" hearts of men" and its also about the hypocrasy of the loud mouth idiots (some of which you and i both saw on another board in recent past).

I still maintain there is a DIFFERENCE between religion and being spiritual. You and I are friends despite our different spiritual paths..weve talke about this at length and disagreed more than once...but we still remain friends.

a "religious" person wouldve condemned me to hell the moment i said that i was a witch...EVEN THOUGH they themselves may smoke (weed) , drink, do drugs, fornicate, lie, swear or any other "sin" that would equally qualify them for hell as well. :rolleyes:
 
Spellbinder said:
and there you have it!:)



i dont quite agree that ALL athiests and agnostics blame "religion"...some of us know (just as you said in your last statement) its really about the "corrupt" hearts of men" and its also about the hypocrasy of the loud mouth idiots (some of which you and i both saw on another board in recent past).

I still maintain there is a DIFFERENCE between religion and being spiritual. You and I are friends despite our different spiritual paths..weve talke about this at length and disagreed more than once...but we still remain friends.

a "religious" person wouldve condemned me to hell the moment i said that i was a witch...EVEN THOUGH they themselves may smoke (weed) , drink, do drugs, fornicate, lie, swear or any other "sin" that would equally qualify them for hell as well. :rolleyes:
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It's my view those who judge others harshly need to check their ownselves first. Also, I could never judge or condemn you Spellbinder for reasons I won't say :D :D
 
Yeah, I really hate it that some of your parents force Jesus on you or whatever. That's definitely NOT the way to try and "convert" anyone. Things like that just really bug me. If someone wants the faith you have, they will get it... If they don't, oh well. You can't make someone believe something, no matter how hard you try. And the more people seem to try, the more the other person seems to run away, you know?

So woohoo! :) Love to everyone! :p
 
My Family does not have a religion. My mother is an Eclectic Witch and has been ever since I was born. That is I guess the religion I was raised under, but it was never really forced upon me. Myself.. I have dabbled and what not, but I don't have a religion really.. I just consider myself spiritual.

My family is very different from others. My Uncle is a Psychic who has given readings to Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman and used to live by Oprah's Winter House.. He is also a Shaman and channels his Spirit Guide Black Bear through his body. Everyone in my family tells me that I should be a Shaman, and that I look almost identical to my uncle when he was younger...

My Grandma can perform automatic writing, in which Spirits enter your body and write through you. She has done this for a long while. She is a very gifted psychic as well...

My sisters.. well the older one, Sarah is more into boys and all that, but Heather is just explained in my family as.. Magical.. She was always talking to things that weren't there when she was little and seeing ghosts and stuff. My uncle said she is going to be a pretty decent witch.

The rest of my relatives are step so they don't really get it.. but I completely love and celebrate my entire family for all of their gifts :)
 
speaking from personal experience.. i think that as a person is growing up...they will take on whatever path of faith their parents follow. children tend to follow their parents. it isnt until they grow older and began socializing with their peers before they began to search for their own identity in various aspects. growing up, my parents were in the pentacostal church ...so thats what i was too..a pentacostal christian. it wasnt till i reached 8th grade that i began to feel differently...and by that time my father had basically left the church and my mother was looking for a less "legalistic, hypocritical" setting.....so that helped me to be able to find my own path too.


hopefully the parents would understand and let the child grow into his/her own and find the path of spirituality that works best for them....but that isnt always the case...and thats when the problems come.

i dont think parents know the damage they do by forcing a child to "believe" one way when that might not make sense or appeal to them. a person's spritual needs cant be met like that.
 
I really haven't been to church much since I came to college. I grew up in a very very small town and religion was always very important and a big part of my life. I was raised a Freewill Baptist. I dunno but since I came to college I just haven't gone... I hate to use the term "lost my faith" because I still believe but aslo college has opened me upto new ideas and experiences that I hadn't taken into account before. Not to mention pointing out some of the historical and philosophical flaws of the bible....
 
Born into a mainly Catholic dominated family, I was Catholic like the majority of my family for quite some time, until several years ago in which I converted to Wicca; having not been satisfied with all of Catholism's beliefs, and seeing my parents were never extremely restrictive or forcefull about which Religion I chose for myself- they were quite open minded really.

So I've been a Wiccan for quite some time, and have been a Witch for a few of those years, although I was more intrested in the Religious side of Wicca at first, I branched out into Witchcraft and the Magickal side as well, after I was sure Wicca was right for me- but thats a totally differrent subject, so I'll leave that at that. I have to say that even though most of my family is ok with my choice, my dads side of the family still choose to believe I'm going through a "phase", seeing they are the more Religious side of the family- where as my Mothers side are very non-chalent about it.

However, despite me being Wiccan, I still participate in most Catholic Holidays- which are more like big family get togethers, rather then anything to do with Religion. Like I said before, my parents were never forceful about Religion- which I am truely grateful for, I know so many other people who have been considering converting as well, but are too scared that their parents will 'disapprove', or punish them etc.

That is what gets me, people who are too insecure about themselves to allow their children to branch out into their own choices, and start making decisions that they believe in. Rather then being forced into something they don't believe in.
 
Oblivion, its nice to see a fellow witch here;) looks like we learned something new about each other. slightly off topic..but did you celebrate the winter solstice and solar new year on 12/21/04?


this is a VERY good topic of discussion its good to see where different people come from and how spirituality has effected their beliefs and thought process.
 
My parents are Christian... well, the most RELAXED christians ive ever known. They celebrate the holidays and teach their children to know the difference between right and wrong. Mom is a homeschool teacher and she teaches the girls about the biblical stories that actually have historical value.

My grandmother[on my dad's side] is the most bible-thumping-est woman ever. I used to go to sunday school with her when she went to church. When i was younger, i remember being so bloody bored, lol. As i got older though, i became much more opinionated. the atmosphere had such negativity for me, i NEVER felt like i belonged with them. There is so much shame incorporated in christianity, imho. you are taught to be so damn remorseful and repentive. Easter became a chance to celebrate that all humans are, by nature, fuck-ups. When i moved away to college, i, like dresden, was opened up to so much MORE.

Dont get me wrong, Christianity has good morals. You shouldnt lie, cheat, steal, murder, or bed everything that moves.... but there is too much logically contradictive about it. Stories that dont fit historically, rules and regulations in the bible that just DONT make sense any more. Not to mention the fact that die-hard Christians believe that everyone else is WRONG for not believing exactly what they do. Im actually enjoying exploring other religious beliefs. I took a philosophy class last semester that was very eye opening.

At the moment I guess I'm not anything. i'm a spiritual person, but i find too many flaws in conventional religions. they just dont fit me and what i believe and im not into conforming. Maybe i'll make my own religion. :)

:fdevil: Wouldn't THAT be disasterous? Titania at the helm of a religious movement. It cracks me up to think about it.
 
I've never really been religious. My parents were pretty much your basic Christians, but they weren't full on and didnt force their beliefs on anyone. At least they called themselves Christian, tho Mum was the only one who went to church regularly. I used to have to go to Sunday School which I hated. I've always been a sensible person and I guess, in a way, sceptical. I found the stuff they tried to teach me was hard to believe (and understand), tho I always made sure I was allowed in the main part of the church when they had communion so I could have the bread and fake wine LOL ;)

I think when I was around 7 or 8 I told Mum I didn't wanna go to church anymore. She wasn't too surprised and was cool with it. So basically since then I haven't been affiliated with any religion. Not to sound elitist or anything, but I think if something goes wrong in my life, its my fault, and if something goes right, then I caused it to happen (directly or indirectly). I can't stand hearing on evangelist shows and stuff how folks think God is upset with them because they're ill or whatnot.

I have basic morals I go by (eg. don't steal, don't kill anyone lol) but thats about it :) I guess I don't like the restrictions some religions put on you. I'm cool with folks having their own beliefs and such, but when they try to force stuff their ways onto you then it's wrong. Tho I'd rather have Jehovah's Witnesses at my door then mobile phone salesmen. At least they're easier to get rid of! :elaugh:
 
I know most folks seem to say Christianity logically and philosophically contradictis itself . . . how? That would be a good discussion to get into. I am open for it. To me JESUS is the way truth and the life no man cometh to GOD but by him. Christianity is a hard message to some, a message of life to others. I don't shove my faith down anyone's throat but I am proud and honest about what I believe. I think folks have a natural bitterness toward Christanity becuase of the religion that has been made out of it. The true teachings of the BIBLE and true power of it is beyond anything that I known. Folks always ask me do I believe in GOD and JESUS I say No! I can't believe in somenoe that I've met. Without JESUS' personal intervention in my life I would not be A Christian nor a Minister, nor here today.

Sometimes I sound like Jerry Fallwell, Sometimes I sound like Joel Osteen but you do know where I am coming from and what I am about.
 
Jenna Jameson said:
I have basic morals I go by (eg. don't steal, don't kill anyone lol) but thats about it :) I guess I don't like the restrictions some religions put on you. I'm cool with folks having their own beliefs and such, but when they try to force stuff their ways onto you then it's wrong. Tho I'd rather have Jehovah's Witnesses at my door then mobile phone salesmen. At least they're easier to get rid of! :elaugh:
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My biggest pet peeve with organized religions are especially the ones that try to shove their religion down your throat. I have my own set of beliefs and such and I don't try to force what I think upon anyone else. It just urks me to have someone say that you have to believe this way because it's right and I know it.... how? because the bible says... blah blah blah.....

your thing about the Jehovah's Witnesses made me think of that one part in Robin Wiliams' Live on Broadway... where "people will com knocking on your door at 6 a.m. going 'have you found Jesus?'.... then you should grab them by the hand (after answering the door naked of course) pull them inside with you and go 'no, come and help me look for him'" LMAO
 
Spellbinder said:
Oblivion, its nice to see a fellow witch here;) looks like we learned something new about each other. slightly off topic..but did you celebrate the winter solstice and solar new year on 12/21/04?


this is a VERY good topic of discussion its good to see where different people come from and how spirituality has effected their beliefs and thought process.
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how'd you not know that? LOL. My entire groupie cult are all witchy ;) mwhahahaha. But yeah, me and my coven back home celebrated yule. we stayed up all night playing games and talking to each other, had an info session, then a ritual, did some readings, ate the yule cakes someone baked, had grape juice LoL, twas a really fun night. had some fun chattin with unkie hyperion too ;) lol.
 
Dresden said:
your thing about the Jehovah's Witnesses made me think of that one part in Robin Wiliams' Live on Broadway... where "people will com knocking on your door at 6 a.m. going 'have you found Jesus?'.... then you should grab them by the hand (after answering the door naked of course) pull them inside with you and go 'no, come and help me look for him'" LMAO
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LMAO! :hehe: Robin Williams is freaking hilarious :D I'll have to remember that one ;)
 
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